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Want to keep those credit lines?

Saturday, March 14th, 2009

You may well not be able to!  No matter how well you handle credit.

The stories are coming out all over the Internet:  A debtor has a bunch of credit lines they have handled well.

Their reward?  Credit line decreases (CLD).  Or an “offer” of cash as an “incentive” to close and pay off the account (AMEX is doing this).  Or…the creditor simply says “Bye!” one day.

The reason?  Cold feet…or too much red ink.  Creditors these days have a lot of one or the other.  Or both.  The tight financial markets, subprime mortgage “meltdown”–the economy in general– are making creditors reassess their exposure and risk to their shareholders (where applicable).

The standards used?  Nothing the consumer has much control over in a lot of cases.  These posts from Debtorboards , for instance, reveal a lot about the situation and the seemingly illogical way that OCs are trying to save themselves.

Posts like this one by Flyingifr:

http://www.debtorboards.com/index.php/topic,7867.msg55987.html#msg55987

American Express CLD’d me in November, giving the “times are tough” reason. The new, improved CL I had was about $200 more than my current balance at the time. Over the next 4 months I paid it down another $1000 without adding any new charged. They cut me again this month, again to about $200 more than I owed at the moment. At that time I figured out that Amex no longer wanted my business and I closed the account. Here are the reasons given (and the truth behind the “reason”

1. Your total debt is too high with American Express or other creditors.

My total debt is $50,000 lower than it was when you gave me the card, and $1000 less with Amex than it was 4 months ago. Now, all of a sudden, it’s too high? …

2. The balance on your American Express card is too high relative to your credit limit.

No kidding, after you reduced it twice in 4 months by almost 50%!!!!

3. The average amount of payments in relation to your overall balance on your American Express account(s) has been too low.

I have always paid more than the minimum payment you requested. …

4. Too many creditors have recently reviewed your credit.

No kidding… including you every month. …

5. Your credit score as provided by TransUnion. According to TransUnion, your score is based on the following factors in your credit report:

5A. Proportion of balances to credit limits on bank/national or other revolving accounts is too high.

According to my TU credit report, my utilization is 19%

5B. Length of time revolving accounts have been established.

My oldest, Wells Fargo, is 6 years old, and has a $50,000 line.

5C. Length of time accounts have been established.

I don’t know if this applies to the Wells Fargo account being my oldest at 6 years or their account at 1 year.

5D. Time since most recent account opening is too short.

Yeah – 1 year – it was YOUR account. …

My other Amex account was closed for this reason:

6. Your spending patterns.

Like they would know my spending patterns. I never used that other account – not once. …

Or this one by Kitten:

http://www.debtorboards.com/index.php/topic,7867.msg56011.html#msg56011

[That is the same "no-usage"] spending pattern that just cost me an Advanta card. I did a BT with it in 2006, paid it off in 2007, and never spent anything. The card was due to expire in a few months, so I WAS going to put it in my wallet to show some usage, but got the letter last week telling me it was closed.

“Steve” wrote:

http://www.debtorboards.com/index.php/topic,7413.msg53031.html#msg53031

These GEMB a-holes are really messing up nowadays! One of my sister’s cards for a Jewelry Store keeps saying she didn’t make her payment, when she paid it off completely. Then, they paid her a refund of $500 while reporting 30-days late to her credit file, and now is saying she owes them about $1000! Her CareCredit card (both GEMB) was CLOSED, and she is pissed!!!

For me, they sent me a BS letter lowering my Paypal credit limit to $100! True, I’ve never used the stinking thing, but, regardless, that bank is clearly going through some stuff!

Another from Flyingifr-Citibank this time:

http://www.debtorboards.com/index.php/topic,7413.msg53636.html#msg53636

[T]hey CLD’d me to an available credit of $125 from a line of $15000. Rather than give them the pleasure of continuing to CLD me as the balance came down I closed the account. Absolutely no attempt was made to keep the business.

It seems Doctor Evil thinks it’s a situation of “debtor is lying about their credit status and therefore the creditors are being sensible:

http://www.debtorboards.com/index.php/topic,7850.msg55858.html#msg55858

I gotta say, have various cards, amex included with various balances and have not had one credit limit decrease or one rate increase. In fact, although solicitations have decreased, amex is the most common one I get.

Not trying to say my creidit is better than yours, but why do you think this is?

Actually, the reason so many are getting the “35-story shaft” from creditors such as AMEX may not really be the fault of the consumer, but…

http://www.debtorboards.com/index.php/topic,7850.msg55861.html#msg55861

As Flyingifr replied in that thread:

Doc – My FICOS are in the mid 700′s and my utilization is 20%.

I think it’s more a case of I live in Arizona (#3 in the nation in foreclosures) and you live somewhere else with a much lower rate.

As in real estate, whether one gets a CLD or not may well depend on only one thing: Location, location, location.

We were all "neophytes" once…

Thursday, September 11th, 2008

Even Flyingifr, owner of Debtorboards and author of the “Flyingifr Method of Aggressive Credit Repair”, was not always an “expert”.  However, it seems that someone–replying to a “Hello, my name is…” post on a certain website that likes to make people think that it created litigious credit repair–is not willing to give credit where credit is due.

Or even admit everyone has had to start somewhere.  This “Honored Guest” (bleh!) by the name of “hannah” sent her greetings to the new user…but could not stop there…not her.  She wrote :

“I’m a “Credit Terrorist”, Saying Hi” (this is the original title).

Welcome to InfiniteCredit!

All the boards have some intrinsic value even OTHER SITE. We don’t advocate calling ourselves something silly like credit terrorists just informed consumers.

FYI – Steve and his bunch like to put out on the net that he invented aggressive credit repair but alas, he did not. If you want to know his beginnings in the game, go to Creditnet and search on his moniker Flyingifr. Wasn’t too long ago he was just a neophyte in credit repair and then after one lawsuit in which he didn’t even prosecute pro se he became an “expert”.

(“OTHER SITE” is “code” at InfiniteCredit for “Debtorboards”.)

This rather “astute” (GAG!) individual-and alleged future attorney from WV–seems to be ignoring the most common fact about consumer credit repair boards:  It does not take much to be labelled an “expert” on any topic…just hanging around for six months and actually have done something useful often does the trick.  (Ask me how I know.)

Now, for some REAL history:

In the case of the owner of the board (Debtorboards) that IC does not dare mention?  Back in the day–just a few years ago–few credit repair methods involved litigation, at least as a plaintiff.  It was Flyingifr who helped re-direct the focus (along with the long-lost and lamented TowerRat of the late “Art of Credit” whose case law searches and posts are still the model for those found at DB (and “Debtor Talk”) today ).  As a result, the focus of consumer credit boards has been slowly moving from “letter-writing”/”begging” for help toward changing consumers from “doormats” to “attack dogs” by showing them how the law can be used as a sword and a shield by consumers…that the courts work both ways.

This focus on taking creditors and “bad actor” collectors to court to redress grievances did NOT originate, really, with CreditNet,  and their “Credit Talk” forum anyway. the “seeds” of the method may have had its true genesis in part on the sites of Christine Baker and her now-defunct “Credit Court” board back when she was more “popular” (and had not yet gone frankly nuts).  CN just expounded a bit more on the theory; AoC really got the “litigious credit repair” methods moving.

As far as Flyingifr is concerned?  CN and AoC–among others–were just sounding boards for feedback and/or places to put up the Flyingifr materials before DB existed. After all, they had to get to the public somehow…

Now, I have some questions for hannah and IC’s Herd of “experts”:

Exactly what have YOU contributed to the store of consumer credit repair knowledge that would have even a tiny amount of originality and/or impact on consumer credit repair methodology?

Did the “experts” at IC–including, it seems by implication or otherwise, you, hannah–really EVER come up with an original idea?

Does IC and/or their “experts” even execute any “methods” and “ideas” that they “borrowed” from others very well?

In short…tell us your credentials in the credit repair field my dear hannah…and have your buddies tell us theirs, too.

Come on…the public awaits…